Saturday, August 21, 2010

Are kids harder to discipline nowadays because of parenting styles or restrictive laws favouring the young???

From what we've seen it appears to be harder to discipline kids nowadays but it is, actually, just the same as it used to be. The people who are finding it harder are the ones who used smacking as the main or only form of discipline in their family. The basics are just the same...clear expectations that are age relevant, clear boundaries and a good reward system are really all that's needed. We agree that the law favours the young in ways that it didn't used to but if parents started with their offspring when they are little it is a lot easier than trying to implement stricter discipline when the kids are older. With the teenage young people it can oftentimes be peer pressure that introduces them to smoking, drinking and drugs but the biggest problem for our young people today is that Councils are quick to slap ASBO's onto them but aren't prepared to build facilities for them. There is nothing for the young teens in our area and there is a huge problem with under-age drinking. The Council have recently refused a Community Centre that would cater for all age groups so if there are more problems in the future with gangs, drinking etc the Council have only themselves to blame.Are kids harder to discipline nowadays because of parenting styles or restrictive laws favouring the young???
Parents no longer disipline there children. There are to many so called experts telling you dont do this dont do that as it will have bad repocussions. Children need to learn from an early age that if they do the wrong thing there are concequences. this can be done in a number of ways but it needs to be lernt. Respect comes from the home not the Law... If your child is taught well at home chances are they will do the right thing in society. there will always be the occasional stray child that over rebels this is to be expected but nothing compared to the way they are brought up today. I have 2 children and people are always commenting on how well behaved they are. good luck with your questionAre kids harder to discipline nowadays because of parenting styles or restrictive laws favouring the young???
Parents are at the same level as the kids, they dress the same, listen to the same music, the mothers have piercings and tramp stamp tattoos and they all act like a team, there is no example set.





When I was younger my mum seemed really mature but looking back she was only 30!!!!





Look forward to a generation of grannies with tattoos, false nails, hair extensions and fake tans.
Yes the restrictive laws does make it harder to dicipline kids.





Now I'm not talking about beating a child to within an inch of it's life, but if dicipline is installed and sometimes it does require a child to be smacked (either on the hands, bottom or legs) then so be it. But now because of our liberal laws, health and safety laws, and other do-gooder atrocities no matter how much we try to dicipline kids now through reasonable methods we have created a generation of diciplineless, little b'stards with no respect or consideration for people or property.





The ironic thing is because the parents have had their parenting styles restricted by the Police and the political left (generally those who can't or won't have kids) we cannot fully dicipline our children, so when the kids cause bother and act anti-social, whose to blame? ah yes, the parents. The very people who want to dicipline their child but face criminal proceedings and a visit from Social Services if they do.
It's a bit of both really.





People in authority are not allowed to properly discipline kids. so they fail to get any respect for authority. This is not helped by bad parenting. Take a recent example;





I was picking my children up from thier primary school and overheard a child saying to his mother that he would be given lunchtime detention if he failed to hand in his homework the next day. The mother said to him ';Just ignore [the teacher] he's a w%nker';.





This is a primary school kid - what chance does he have with parents like that
its down to the parents


everytime
I think it's a mixture of both. Today's parents are the product of their childhood when liberality started. This may be a chicken and egg situation. Ultimately the answer is in teh hands of the parents. Starting ideas of right and wrong at an early age and teaching children to do the right thing (rather than what everyone else is doing) seems to me to be the only answer.
Its harder because of more liberal laws and teaching. School staff should be given more disciplinary powers..
to many do gooder's who think they know what's best for the family, they get new law's past so it's difficult to discipline your kid's then now they'vee realised they'v made a mistake they want to change the law's again, do they do this just to make us perents feel failiars??
they are much tougher to discipline...even more than that, the same people who take away our right's to discipline our children are ironically the same ones to complain about them when they screw up!!! Really though if you think about... I for one was scared to death to face my parents when I screwed up knowing they were going to grab a paddle and ';tan my hide';! But this taught me so much respect and to take responsibility for my actions. Something todays' kids are seriously lacking. To this day my mother is my best friend, but also the one I'm afraid of the most when I screw up in life... and I'm grown with 3 of my own children! (who mind you get their ';hides tanned'; when they need it!!!)
Its the parents....they let the kids get away with everything nowadays. How are you supposed to talk to a young child %26amp; explain that what they're doin is wrong.....they havent a clue whats goin on, they dont understand! A slap across the hand or the bum never did anyone any harm
I don't think kids are harder to discipline, I think parents are more lax for some reason or another. I spank my children when they get out of hand. There is a huge difference between spanking and abusing. I don't care what any law says as long as my children live with me, they will abilde by my rules if not, there are consequences. I think parents buy into that whole don't beat your kids mess and let their child run all over them because they are afraid of what others might say to them.
I believe its parenting styles more than laws favoring children. Parents have become more permissive, the focus on discipline is less and the time spent with children on a day-to-day basis has diminished. Structure and discipline (not necessarily spanking - although there may be occasions where that is necessary) are needed when a child is very young; this will help make things a bit easier when the child gets older and will instill in them a respect for authority.
Your question has a flawed premise. What makes you think that kids are harder to discipline today than they were in the past?





And to all of the ridiculous people out there who wish that they could beat up/smack around their kids like you could in the ';good ol' days';, you're nothing but neanderthal bullies. Seriously...do you really think that your strength and your ability to tan the hide of a child is going to teach them respect? It teaches them to fear those who are physically stronger than themselves...great lesson. I hope you get smacked around when you're old, decrepit, and helpless. There are plenty of alternatives to brute force and they will teach children far better lessons...
ohh yess i have a 4 year old and i was brought up with a little smack here and there and it did me no harm and when my son was 3 i smacked his bum and i was put on a parent programme thing and it told me not hit to him to talk to him i mean hes only 3 what was i ment to say so since then i dont smack him and he gets away with everything and he can really be hard to deal with and the older he gets the worse it gets so i say bring back the old rules!!!!
its very hard to discipiline a child nowadays with some many competetive people around, that many parents find it difficult to balance work and raising their children into mature adults is a huge task
kids are harder to discipline because the meaning of the word ';discipline'; changed from ';helping'; to ';controlling';.


authority figures don't care about helping the child learn lessons anymore. instead they try to force obedience.





children aren't stupid. even dogs and cats can understand the difference. one way, children react positively. the other way, children become afraid.


there's no possible way you could ';discipline'; someone if your authority loses it's value, and the fastest way to lose value as an authority is to make people afraid of you.





you need to be disciplined. learn respect for others.


learn respect for children.
Both of your reasons, plus the fact that there's more pressure from advertisements around so parents find it much harder keeping up with all the gadgets and fashions than they did before television and media targeted the children. The children expect so much more.
It's because of all the stupid do-gooders and the PC brigade ! ! !
Kids have no respect for parents anymore.
Its hard to judge this one. I think it is down to the Parents making sure that when they set restrictions on their kids behaviour then they stick to that decision.





Too many times I see kids whinning on and their Parents eventually give in.....then the kids win and also realise how to manipulate each Parent.





I understand that teachers have to be careful but what is the use of them dishing out disclipline when a Parent comes running into the school to complain about the punishement.





Its a mixture of careful and fair discipline plus reward system for good behaviour. Its not easy I know but my kids have grown up and when the boys were little a quick smack on the backside was my answer and I never got any backchat.


There all grown men now and they respect me for it, also I use to use a deep voice when shouting at them and this made them jump and even now I still do it, (for a laugh).


I think that you just need to set you goals and dont move the goalposts...or the little darlings will take over.


I dont think it is harder to discipline nowadays I just think that kids seem to be able to see your weak spots, and never be afraid to say NO to them.
Yes. most definitely. Children have more rights than every before. Some children will use these rights to abuse their parents and hold things against them.





Parents are so scared now to discipline their children for fear of repercussions.
The government has some ridiculous laws which make it tough. I was astounded to find washing your child's mouth out w/ soap is considered abusive. My Mom then it seems abused me on numerous occasions lol, and I deserved every bit of it. Loveyou Mom and respect your authority.
not harder there are just certain things you cant do to us teens

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